On this episode of CFO at Home, Vince’s guest is relationship coach Brett Jones. Brett and Vince discuss relationship skills. and how communication breakdowns—especially around money—can drive conflict and even divorce. Brett shares the story of how his first marriage collapsed, which led him into 30 years of relationship coaching. We also discuss why “love is not enough,” how men and women often communicate differently, and how money conversations can trigger safety and security concerns, leading men to shut down when they hear criticism.

For more on Brett, his book Samurai Love, resources, and upcoming events, go to the relationshipcode.org

00:42 Why Relationships Need Skills
01:55 Brett’s Story and Divorce Stats
06:47 Money Fights and Divorce Patterns
10:36 Why Men Check Out
13:24 Safety and Money Conversations
17:19 Budget Talk Mistakes Men Make
21:44 Let Her Influence Decisions
25:17 Security Scanning vs Fixing
26:11 Why Conversations Differ
27:37 Anxiety and Defensive Spirals
29:13 Presence Over Fixing
35:03 Money Decisions and Trust
40:38 Resentment and Repairing Connection
44:47 Samurai Love Resources
49:01 Final Takeaways and Links